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The Everyday Trainer Podcast
The Everyday Trainer Podcast
Revolutionizing Canine Health: Unlocking Nutritional Secrets with Tannisha from Pet Matrx
Unlock the secrets to transforming your dog's health with insights from Tannisha of Pet Matrix, a trailblazer in canine nutrition. She takes us on a journey through the groundbreaking CMD cell matrix delivery system, which revolutionizes nutrient absorption for dogs by bypassing traditional pitfalls like low bioavailability. You'll learn how peptides play a crucial role in maintaining gut health, acting as a repair system for the gut lining, and why removing common household contaminants can protect your pet’s well-being.
Explore the nutritional nuances that affect canine behavior and performance, and discover how proper diet can alleviate inflammation and oxidative stress. From understanding the signs of these conditions to implementing a raw diet for optimal health, Tannisha shares anecdotes and practical strategies that highlight the importance of comprehensive wellness. Our conversation extends to behavioral insights, offering tips from expert dog trainers on how nutrition can significantly impact training outcomes, especially for working and sports dogs.
Dive into the holistic approach that Pet Matrix offers, with innovative products designed to support the full spectrum of canine health. Featuring remedies like Move, Think, Protect, and Calm, Tannisha explains how these easily administered solutions can enhance focus, reduce stress, and support joint health. The episode wraps up by stressing the value of a balanced diet, the potential benefits of fasting, and adopting a lifestyle that respects a dog’s natural instincts. Join us for a rich discussion that promises to empower you with the knowledge to elevate your furry friend's well-being.
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Hello and welcome back to the Everyday Trainer podcast. My name is Meg and I am a dog trainer. Today is a very cool episode. I am joined by Tanisha from Pet Matrix. That is a canine supplement company. So she's here to talk all about dog nutrition, her supplement company, how she got started and what you can do to improve your dog's health. You know the drill Grab yourself a tasty drink and meet us back here. Hello Tanisha, hello Welcome.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. Welcome to the van. I'm so happy to be here. Just so that everybody knows this is a full circle moment. Megan was one of the first people I followed on Instagram when I got my own dog.
Speaker 1:And here I am in her van. I'm flattered. I'm flattered, so happy. Yeah, we're so happy to have you and we were like having a such a cool conversation before about everything that you've got going on and it's so awesome. So let's go ahead and start. Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2:Awesome. So, like Megan said, my name is Tanisha and I am the co-founder and director of education for Pet Matrix and I am the co-founder and director of education for pet matrix. We are a family business and we have been building our company grassroots style, building an incredible community alongside with our premium canine supplements, and we are literally here to change the entire face of canine wellness and disrupt the industry I love that.
Speaker 1:I love, I love your spiel. You had that ready All day. Every day, you're like, I've been waiting for this moment. Yes, no, that's so cool and what you've built is truly amazing.
Speaker 2:When did you guys start this? We started almost three years ago, coming in February. So we are in that last stretch to hitting three years, and it has been nothing less than amazing. Every single blood, you know, drop of blood, sweat, tears, laughing, you know joy and the roller coaster of just being in business, as you know, and all of the amazingness that comes with it, and it just makes the journey just so incredibly rewarding every single day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what got you into dog supplements, or I guess?
Speaker 2:pet supplements? Sure, so we actually have a relationship with the technology. For anybody that doesn't know who we are Pet Matrix premium canine supplements. We deliver nutrition with a pharmaceutical punch. So what differentiates our entire line is the delivery system, which we call CMD cell matrix delivery.
Speaker 2:So that technology that we have a relationship with, we were actually using it before we even founded our company, and my brother and my sister-in-law, who are also my business partners, they were actually using our technology with compounds that was not Pet Matrix at the time with their own dog and her name is Bay.
Speaker 2:She was nine years old at the time and we were incorporating this technology with different compounds for her and her gray face, which is oxidative stress. In case you don't know that, if you have a dog who has a premature graying muzzle, those are signs is oxidative stress. In case you don't know that, if you have a dog who has a premature graying muzzle, those are signs of oxidative stress. We were using it with her and at nine years old, her gray face literally stopped being gray that's so crazy and her keratosis on her nose as well literally just went away. Her allergies and her paws, her belly, her fur started growing back, and so that was when we as a family decided okay, we need to do this and bring this to market for the canine space, because what we have doesn't exist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what is so different from Pet Matrix, from other supplement?
Speaker 2:brands? Great question. I really love to educate people about what does exist in the industry and unfortunately, majority of what does exist is white labeled company products. So explain what that is Exactly. So, basically, anybody can go start a supplement company. As long as they have a nice chunk of change and we're very open about this Anybody can go do that. They can go to a supplier or manufacturer and say, okay, what do you got for? Let's just say joint supports, okay, perfect, they pick it, okay, great. So now provide us with the label and slap it on a package. That's a white label company. Anybody can go do that.
Speaker 2:We are completely opposite of that. We have a lab. We conjugate our compounds. We actually test everything to make sure that it crosses the blood-brain barrier. So when I say that we actually deliver nutrition with a pharmaceutical punch, that is exactly what we do, and every single one of the compounds that we are conjugating in our products, including peptides, cross what's called the blood-brain barrier, meaning that our compounds don't have to tax the liver, they don't have to bypass digestive organs, they are delivered directly into the bloodstream via absorption. So that is the difference. Our products do not tax the dogs of the body, they're nothing.
Speaker 1:And what's like a traditional supplement do, or like how is it processed?
Speaker 2:sure, so great question within the body. So think of yourself eating food right or taking a supplement. Once you actually consume it, there's only a small fraction that you can actually absorb and utilize, and that's what's called bioavailability. So what's the most common compound in the dog space? Turmeric or curcumin?
Speaker 2:Everybody wants to use it, everybody wants to make golden paste, but nobody really understands that the bioavailability of turmeric is about 5%. So people want to over supplement their dogs using turmeric. Well, if that bioavailability is only 5% meaning the amount of nutrition that the dog can actually possibly absorb, it still has to go through the liver. And if that dog is already experiencing states of inflammation or oxidative stress, joint pain, digestive issues, you name it, the list goes on on then that five percent of bioavailability is going to be much smaller for what the dog can actually utilize. And so that's really the problem that we're solving for dogs and the people who are purchasing supplements is that instead of getting such a minimal amount of nutrition, you're going to get a hundred percent maximal amount of bioavailability from what we're giving your dog.
Speaker 1:How did you come up with this? How did you?
Speaker 2:figure all of this out. Oh my gosh. The backstory on that is quite incredible, but really it just comes down to science and working with people who know what they're doing in biochemists.
Speaker 1:That's always valuable. Yeah, finding people who actually know what they're doing, I mean, I would love to say like oh yeah, I'm in my kitchen and I came up with all these things and you know, cut the foil and the tin hat, and just you know making things
Speaker 2:happen, but that's not happening. So, you know, we conjugate, we find the compounds that we feel are ideal and best for the dogs. For example, we feel are ideal and best for the dogs, for example, peptides that can rebuild the gut, like BPC, one, five, seven and KPV, you know, versus having to use a ton of probiotics for dogs, cause, you know, that's a totally different conversation that we can expand on, for sure, but really just addressing the root. And that's what we're here to do Rebuild the dog from the inside out, create resilience for the dog inside out, internally, so that what we see within, for example a dog's behavior, that's not just one thing, it's not just training, that's nervous system inflammation. So how can we help that dog have a healthier nervous system so that when they are with their trainer, there's less static, there's less disconnection within the nervous system and how the energy flows, so that now, as that trainer lays foundation, oh, okay, great, now it's actually going to stick?
Speaker 1:yeah, because we have free flowing nervous system electricity, not short circuits and why do you think so many dogs like struggle with inflammation and that sort of stuff?
Speaker 2:so I really love to educate people about the internal and external environmental factors. Um, it can be a little overwhelming for people because they have to assess their own lifestyle. What are the dogs being exposed to? Are you using harsh chemicals within the home? Let's just say you are.
Speaker 2:Those harsh chemicals, just like for humans, do create inflammation within the nervous system because where are the dogs intaking information separate from their eyes and their entire body? Their nose. So their nose is taking in these harsh chemicals, those harsh chemicals that come through the nose, the olfactory system then create inflammation because those harsh chemicals are come through the nose, the olfactory system then create inflammation because those harsh chemicals are signaling the immune system and they're saying, whoa, there's a crazy level of activity going, foreign invaders my inflammation system within the body, which is supposed to be a defense system. As you know, with your background too, it's supposed to be a defense system, but if it's overly activated, that inflammation doesn't get to go down. It's supposed to be a defense system, but if it's overly activated, that inflammation doesn't get to go down, it stays in high alert. So now these dogs are in a chronic inflammatory state because of internal and external environmental factors. So there's harsh chemicals that may be used in the home.
Speaker 2:Then you look at the food quality. What type of quality of food are you feeding your dog? What about the shampoos that the dogs are even exposed to? It's the tiny things, and I always love to educate people. It's the micro that makes the macro. Yeah, so you can be stacking micro decisions every single day that are either going to build your dog or put them in a deficit. Yeah, and we have the choice to make on a daily basis now that we are in the information age yeah, and that's so interesting.
Speaker 1:It's something that, like you know, that I kind of preach about. I feel like I've gotten away from preaching about it as much, but I don't know. You've kind of inspired me of, like this is a topic that needs to be talked about in the training space is the role of like looking at the dog holistically Right. Like looking at the dog not just in the obedience sessions that you do or the active training sessions that you do, but in how you're actually living with the dog, and that was something that was like really important for me at. You know, like when we were living out of the house, like I did not use harsh chemicals, I did not use bleach, I did not use like all of this crazy stuff, I did not have scented candles, thank you, I was. I was the crazy person with the red lights, because I know lights go off when the sun goes down.
Speaker 2:I don't have the lights on in my house either. We are in a warm state once the sun goes down. I don't have the lights on in my house either. We are in a warm state once the sun goes down.
Speaker 1:Yes, the nervous system and it makes a huge impact, even with the dogs. Like we've been kind of it's living in a van, it's exaggerated, right, because, like we are in a house setting where we can like turn on a bunch of lights and so seeing the dogs, like when it gets dark at 4, 30 pm, which it does they're like bedtime, yeah, you know, and they're sleeping more, and like they're less active. I would say they get, like you know, bursts of energy, but for the most part they're less active, they don't really need to eat as much and it just gets back to how we're naturally supposed to be living with that exactly we're not supposed to be living with, like all of these chemicals.
Speaker 1:And like we would clean everything castile soap yeah, you know, like I would get one of those big bottles of castile soap and that's how we would clean everything. And I would tell my owners, like look, I do not use, I don't use these harsh chemicals. Like I don't want it in my house. You know, and I and I remember when I was in biology we were reading some like studies about the air quality in people's homes and they were testing the air quality and the air quality in people's homes was worse than like downtown LA.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Because of all of the chemicals and the air fresheners and candles and like especially dogs, like how sensitive they're, like olfactory systems are like I can't imagine the influence that it has on like inflammation and eastern approaches and wellness and um we would do home protocols and these home protocols that we would do with people, absolutely 100.
Speaker 2:This might be shocking for some people. Um removal of carpet yeah, and people have no idea plastic? Yeah, it's, it's that, but it also accumulates molds things like it traps. Yes, mold yeast fungus carpet is disgusting. Who?
Speaker 1:came up with that.
Speaker 2:I don't know like we're gonna put a rug in your house that you can't remove, they probably need a lot of money, but but yeah, it's um, it's very toxic, and so with that then comes and it's so funny because I just posted it on our um, on our reel today on the pet matrix account, which, if you're not following, go follow um plug um.
Speaker 2:So for I'd say 20 years I've had very advanced um air purifiers in my home and as a company. Just to be very clear for everybody listening, we are a canine supplement company, but we are educators of full rounded wellness for dogs. So even if there is somebody that can't purchase our product right away for whatever reason, we're still here to help you. We can direct you in all the different areas. So the home environment is incredibly important, and having a quality air purifier is too. That way, you and your dogs are breathing clean air and have the ability to trap whatever contaminants are in the air.
Speaker 2:Because those are the small things. The micro makes the macro stresses the body, disrupts the gut, just like it does for us as humans, and so also, it's really important for people to be paying attention to themselves. Well, what's going to impact my health? Because if there's something that impacts my health negatively, it's probably going to do the same for my dog. So that is something that I personally feel can help people stay in check with the choices that they can expand on for their dog where they have room to do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, and earlier you were kind of talking about peptides and how that was a big thing. Break that down for us. Talk to us about peptides as if that was a big thing. Break that down for us, like talk to us about peptides as if we know absolutely nothing. I love it.
Speaker 2:Because I know very little.
Speaker 1:Okay, perfect I really know my biology background. Sure, it's perfect.
Speaker 2:So I love to help people imagine peptides like a sewing machine. So if you have a shirt, let's just say, your favorite pair of pants, whatever, and they have a hole in them and you really want to wear that shirt or that pair of pants again somewhere, the sewing machine will help stitch that material back together. So the peptides that we use within our protect, which is our immune and gut support, rebuild the gut from the inside out, which helps reinforce a healthy immune system. So we use peptides like BPC-157 and KPV. Those are two different peptides that we use to be able to literally stitch the gut lining back together.
Speaker 2:Most people they have no idea that their dogs most likely have leaky gut, irritable bowel, all the inflammatory dysregulation within the gut, disrupted microbiomes and majority of the people will run to probiotics. Listening and you were running to probiotics, you definitely want to listen to this these peptides that we use will actually put the gut lining back together and I would say give it about 30 to 60 days. We honestly we've had really chronic situations restore themselves within a three to four week period and I'm talking about very serious conditions. Our first ambassador ever, actually Sequoia the bully. She adopted Sequoia, she was her foster win and she had explosive diarrhea every two hours for nine months and this is before we had an ambassador program before anything like in the early infancy stages, and we gave her a Thrive Pack and we're like here, please use that. And the Thrive Pack is all of our three topper supports and within just a few weeks her explosive diarrhea stopped.
Speaker 1:That's wild, completely yeah oh my gosh, yeah, we need this yeah, we've needed you. No, because sometimes, like we just had a dog that was like, this dog was so dirty and it was like it. She was just anxious and you know, just like cranked up all the time you know, but I think it goes back to that you know, or even like him yeah, it was uncontrolled.
Speaker 3:Yeah, even I think it's mainly the malinois they get, so stressed yeah anxious poops like yeah yeah, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, super, super important to pay attention to those things too and identify the root to that. So, like in that type of situation with explosive diarrhea or anything of relation, peptides will basically stitch the gut lining back together. Because what happens is when there's so much inflammation in the gut just think about that gut lining getting thicker and thicker and thicker. Well, the thicker that gut lining gets, the thicker mucus builds up and then you just have stickiness in there and then with that you have these micro holes which are kind of like a hole puncher. So then what ends up happening is that food that they're consuming all of a sudden starts to leak through those holes. Well, where does that go? That goes into the bloodstream. Well then what happens?
Speaker 2:We have pathogens and undigested food particles in that bloodstream. That's going to alert the immune system. Okay. So now the immune system inflates. It says, okay, we need to have our immune response inflate so that we can restore ourselves. The problem is that there's so much inflammation because it doesn't ever stop, because the food continues to leak through that. Now we're in a chronic state of inflammation and now that gut situation is so bad. So what do we do? We don't pour probiotics down into our dog's body at all. We prepare the gut lining so that now, once that gut lining restores and is full and whole, now our gut can actually hold the probiotics instead of leaking back into the bloodstream.
Speaker 3:yeah, that's the approach okay, you spoke about um the product being toppers and like, to the best of my knowledge, probiotics, uh sorry, and peptides normally are injected, correct. So how does that work?
Speaker 2:So this is where it gets very fun. This is the power of CMD cell matrix delivery. So basically, what we do is we encapsulate and conjugate our compounds, including the peptides, basically shoving them into a water molecule so that, even though they're in a topper, everything is freeze, dried down into bovine collagen, grass-fed bovine collagen, so it's literally a topper. But the way that we conjugate, the compounds are essentially within a water molecule, so the body recognizes it as water and that's how we cross the blood brain barrier interesting, yeah.
Speaker 1:So what happens when you're just like dumping turmeric and probiotics and all of that stuff into your dog's food?
Speaker 2:taxation and waste it over it literally, it just overloads the liver, it stores in the tissue, it doesn't get utilized and it makes their bodies work harder when it's not bioavailable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so are you just like screaming whenever you see those posts on social media?
Speaker 2:Screaming and putting my head in a pillow is what it feels like, and then sending it to somebody who knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're like.
Speaker 2:I'm a crazy person, but I know that this is not right it just kills me, yeah, it just kills me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because there's a much better way. And, of course, like, let me just make it very clear, there's no judgment, because we always tell people listen like, the only reason that we ever invest in supplements for our dogs to start is because we want to help them and so doing what we do as a company. Now it's our job to educate the people and the masses and give them an option to make the best choice that they can. Yeah, and at that point, the decision is up to them.
Speaker 1:um, with having information available at their fingertips so what are some signs that our dogs are in oxidative stress?
Speaker 2:awesome inflammation, um, the biggest one that I see. Very commonly any dog under the age of five which is sadly happening every single day that has a premature gray muzzle. So if your dog has graying on its chin, anywhere on its muzzle around its nose area, and your dog is, oh my goodness, less than five years old, you got to fix that. That is your number one sign that your dog is stressed Internally. It could just be the nervous system, it be the gut, it could be a combination of everything. But think of a premature graying muzzle like gray hair. What does gray hair look like on a person? You look at a person with gray hair and I'm starting to get gray hair.
Speaker 1:Don't even talk to me about it.
Speaker 2:I've got like right for those who, for those who follow eastern uh uh approaches, it's right on my GV20.
Speaker 3:The crown of my head.
Speaker 2:You know it's not fun, but it's what comes with building a business.
Speaker 1:I know I have that too. I'm like, oh man, I like used to get like blonde highlights and obviously I'm not doing that anymore because I'm like on the road being a van bomb and I'm like, oh my gosh, my gray hair, I know, right here.
Speaker 3:Right in front where I part my hair too, me too, yeah, yeah, it's not fun.
Speaker 1:So that's like a physical sign. Yes.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I would definitely say skin Obviously, skin allergies, whatever.
Speaker 1:There's so many different ways.
Speaker 2:I feel like so many different ways, every dog has something for sure. Their paws, like yeasty paws, hot spots the most. I think one of the most overlooked ones, um, is red eyes, okay, and a lot of people think, oh, my day's normal, you know my dog has red eyes.
Speaker 2:Now that's a huge amount of inflammation and pressure as well. So the blood within a dog and a human, just as equally, it's actual tissue. So if there's inflammation taking place, then the blood is also going to be inflamed as well, meaning that it can't be sent through the vessels appropriately either. So who were some of the most common dogs that have extremely bloodshot eyeballs? Frenchies, okay. So if you look at that and you look at their snouts and how they don't receive oxygen flow appropriately. So what is inflammation? Inflammation is oxidative stress. What is oxidative stress? The stress of not having enough oxygen, which is inflammation. So any dog that is having an inflammatory response or reaction, it's always inflammation. So, red eyes, goopy eyes, red paws, hot spots, tear ducts that are constantly brown, that's a huge deal. Um, anal gland expression. Um, oh, really poor fur quality, really poor fur quality, like really bristly fur that's outside of like the standard breed, of course. Yeah, um, pretty much common everyday things that we see, but people aren't, they don't have trained eyes for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's almost just become normal. It is, you know, it is yeah really, um, we kind of struggled with that, with, like minka, like I have to feed her raw or she has like bloody stools, her hair will fall out. It gets very like bristly and like okay. So yeah, you know that sort of stuff yeah yeah um, and we got her on raw and I don't do I don't do supplements, because I know that it's all just white labeled, and I'm like very cautious of what I do.
Speaker 1:Right, we just bought like one supplement, but I think it's like freeze-dried um green green lip muscle.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, yeah that's a that's totally different.
Speaker 1:Right, it's just like a single ingredient type thing, but that's I'm like I I think that this is yeah, I think that this is okay, but other than that, I'm like I have some background in like working with people who did do white label supplements and I'm like, oh, this is just such a waste of money. It's such a waste of money and it's so expensive and the markup on it is astronomical.
Speaker 2:I very familiar. Crazy, yeah, crazy it is, and that's why, again, we're very adamant about letting the people know, like, this is what we're not and this is what you get, what you get. We definitely know that for people who are purchasing our product, who are on monthly subscription which we are so incredibly grateful for that it is an investment, especially when they have multiple dogs. But, at the same time, we are also of the mindset of invest now so that you don't have a chronic vet bill later, because that is the epidemic yeah, hugely the epidemic and there is a way to navigate, you know, and have healthy balance. We're definitely not anti-vet, we are all about it. We have plenty of vets that use our products and, at the same time, we're very holistic minded. And how can we set this dog up for internal resilience so that they can be successful for as long as possible?
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you see behavioral things with constant inflammation and oxidative stress?
Speaker 2:Wildly yeah, and it's so amazing. I would say so. We have an incredible group of ambassadors at this point.
Speaker 2:Over the past year, we've built basically about 100 ambassadors and I would say that majority of the ambassadors that we have about 70 of them are all trainers and these people are understanding the connection of nutrition and behavior and how it helps them and their own success with their dogs, who are obviously their clients, to lay those foundations, to allow those foundations to stick, because the nervous system is clear, because the gut-brain connection is clear, because the inflammation that they've had the opportunity to address, or the trainers that are telling their clients, hey, you need to get your dog on this type of nutrition, which is obviously our company for these reasons, are going to help you have the outcome that you want and they're just going to work together to enhance the result.
Speaker 2:And that's, you know. That's really, I feel, where the bridge is being connected, and it took my own experience with my own dog to see that, oh my gosh, like wait, why aren't the trainers being supported? Why isn't the sports or the working dog community being supported with a quality supplement that's going to help these dogs who are experiencing that type of inflammation and oxidative stress every single day?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so, and what do you see specifically with?
Speaker 2:those types of dogs, those types of dogs, those types of dogs, enhanced recovery, much more focus, alertness.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think about recovery, but that makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's peptides yeah, hugely, especially for you know their joints, their musculoskeletal system, the amount of stress for a dog that is participating in any type of sport or working capacity. Their nervous system is going into drive, and so when that nervous system hits drive, what's going to happen? Like they're super charged up. You guys have a mouth, you know, oh yeah. So when they're super charged up it takes them a minute. So what happens? When your car overheats? You're in the red. How long does it take for that car to freaking, cool down and hopefully function?
Speaker 2:So it's the same for a dog. And so what we're doing is we're supporting their bodies with nutrition so that they have a reserve, so that when they do hit that threshold they're not in a deficit and that they can function and recover faster, so that the next time they're going to go work or do any type of sport or activity they're not in the deficit, robbing themselves. Because what will happen is if a dog doesn't have, just like a human, if a dog doesn't have enough nutritional reserve or nervous system reserve and neurotransmitters that can help sustain that nervous system, they will be in a deficit. And that's when you have dogs, if they've experienced significant amounts of trauma, if it's a rescue. You know, depending on what that history is, that dog's in a neurotransmitter deficit, it's going to be behaving like it's screws are loose. Yeah, then you throw training in, which is is fine, but you still have a deficit you still have like a neurotic dog exactly.
Speaker 1:You know like sure it can go into a down yeah, but like that dog's not calm. Yeah, you know, and that's that's what I would get a lot of is kind of like these really neurotic dogs that are, like I call them, like teapot dogs, where they're in a crate and they're like you, hmm, hmm. Hmm, you know, like constantly and I'll talk with the owners about like what are you feeding this?
Speaker 1:dog Like what does life look like? You know, and it's often. You know. There is a genetic component to it, but a huge part of it is nutrition and that dog is most likely in a constant state of inflammation because it's eating food that is highly processed and has no nutritional values and extremely, you know, carby, and then you're just fueling the yeast cells and all of that and then you get leaky gut and yeah, I just watched a video on this actually this morning, yeah, but related to humans and children and how this was 40 years ago.
Speaker 2:They did this video study and they filmed these children before and after in giving them candy and the children were wonderful before the candy. Five to 10 minutes after the candy, these kids were throwing tantrums, and so you have to look at that. What's happening within the brain chemistry that is altering what's in the candy isn't that wild.
Speaker 1:Yes, like how much of our behavior is influenced by, like, our gut health.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that's oh my gosh, this is a whole another conversation, the vagus nerve and the connection of everything. Because the nervous system it is. It's no different than you at home plugging in your lamp into the wall. In order for that lamp to work, there has to be electrical flow flowing through that wall that receives the male end of that plug. It's a system that travels, it's electricity. Our dogs are the same way. They accumulate information at rates that our human bodies aren't even capable of. They accumulate information by the trillions more than ours. So they're so highly sensitive. Look at, look at their age processing their metabolic systems are so much faster than ours. So their sensitivities, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I never even thought about that. Yeah, yeah, you're so right, it's.
Speaker 2:There was something that I saw you know, like the standard that we're told oh for one year in a human is seven years for dogs. I saw something several months back that actually was debunking that and it was excessively more so what we've been told seven years for one year. There's it's not confirmed but questionable new information that is actually saying that one human year could be comparable anywhere from minimum of seven to as much as 30. Whoa, from a metabolic standpoint, whoa, I don't know how factual that is yet at this point, but even if it is, yeah, that just goes to show how highly sensitive they are to any and all information they intake from their eyes, their nose, their mouth, their fur their entire environment, their paws, yeah, everything and that kind of plays into.
Speaker 1:Did you listen to my costa rica episode?
Speaker 1:I don't think so okay so I went to costa rica and all the dogs there are, yes I did yes so chill and I'm, like you know, sitting there watching malinois and like all of these working breeds, just like, just like strut around, chilling, and I think a huge component of that is obviously at their environment.
Speaker 1:But to get a little more detailed, I think it's like you know, it's not the same lifestyle as it is here, like here we're living in, like in homes with bright lights and a lot of chemicals and Wi-Fi, wi-fi. You know like all of this stuff is having, you know, adverse effects on dogs. It's very visible because they live short lives and they're more sensitive to that sort of stuff. You know, so like to actually see it and like see these dogs that I would typically be like. Oh, you know, malinois can be a little neurotic and blah, blah, blah and it's like, well, they're super stable. Why? Because they're getting outside, because you know they're getting sunlight in the morning and they go inside when it gets dark and they're not exposed to all of these like super harsh chemicals, because that's not necessarily like the culture here.
Speaker 1:You know, like they're probably not eating kibble, they're probably eating scraps that are left over from the restaurants. You know, like all the dogs are hanging out by the restaurants because they get fed and it's like whole food and you know, it's just, it's kind of like how we're supposed to live. It is yeah it's wild.
Speaker 2:It's funny that you're saying this too, because, um, a lot of the education, uh, that we put out on the pet matrix account and then, along with my own personal account, um, for my own dog and just my own lifestyle, um, I'm all about grounding, like, yeah, on a daily basis, yeah, if I'm not out in nature, or you know, if you guys saw the environment that we're in right now outside the van, like we're at like my beach spot, like this is a dream come true it's perfect, it's so perfect but the sand outside of this van right now, like this, is where I started my morning for 15 years oh, that's amazing, and getting
Speaker 2:grounded and I do the same thing with my dog. I do the same thing with my parrot, because I know that it's imperative to them to be healthy, to expand their wellness beyond what the typical norms are Like. That's the entire intention. So for our community, we encourage the same Go outside with your dog in nature. We run a giveaway every weekend and we call it the Move Weekend Giveaway, and it's so that we can encourage people to go outside in nature with their dog and we give away free product every weekend.
Speaker 1:Do you talk a lot on your social media on the Pet Matrix. One Like do I personally talk about?
Speaker 2:I think you should. So in 2025, the whole model's gonna change. I think you need to be an influencer. Yeah, okay, yeah, well, in the human space, I, I kind of was, but yeah, in the dog space, uh, it's a different game.
Speaker 1:No, but I think like I don't know I'm. I'm kind of tokened as like the crazy person who, like, walks the dog's barefoot. You know, and for me I didn't even think twice about that until I got a following and people are like I can't believe you're walking around the neighborhood without shoes on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and I'm like oh, you're like oh well, this is my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're all not doing that you know, and it's like, yeah, for my dogs like my dogs are not perfectly trained at all like if you met my dogs, you'd be like they are wild, but I love that of course I want them to be themselves yes, they're themselves.
Speaker 1:I want them to run around and roll in dirt, and you know like be disgusting because like that's kind of what they were meant to be and like. When we fulfill them, naturally, I find that they're happier and they're healthier. You know, like zoe is coming up on she's like 11 and a half, coming up on 12, and like she goes on all the hikes with us, she does all the things with us. Like I treat her just like everybody else.
Speaker 3:I'm like come on old lady like come on, you know we're hiking.
Speaker 1:We're doing the things. I love that and it's just I don't know. I feel like people have kind of like everybody has a dog and we've kind of like plucked them from nature, right, because?
Speaker 2:we've done that for ourselves, highly domesticated them and put our own human values on them yeah, I have. I talk about this all the time and I see it a lot with my bird. You know, um, you know, even though he's not a dog, oh, you're gonna convince me to get a parrot, I don't know Toma's like shut up.
Speaker 1:She's wanted one for a while. Maybe you might see him. I send him videos of like parrots. They're like, they're so sassy, I just love them.
Speaker 2:Oh, you have no idea, I got bite scars all over my hands for the past 12 years.
Speaker 2:It's so cool, but you know there's we talk about, you know, having the dogs and, as you know, working with dogs and trainers. There's a heavy responsibility that comes with it, not just from the training aspect, but for those of us who can really take them in of their personalities and their genetics, there's a different type of responsibility. That comes with feeding them well. That comes with feeding them well, that comes with training them well but allowing them to be themselves genetically. And so, you know, another thing that I love to encourage people to do is, you know, for that mental stimulation aspect, outside of quality nutrition and supplements and training and all these things, is finding that outlet for your dog that allows them to genetically express themselves. Yes, you know, breed appropriate exercise. Um, I have a pit bull. She's a rescue. So what do we do? We love to do bite work. That's fun, that's breed appropriate for her. You know people who have herding dogs.
Speaker 1:You know what type of herding activities can I love that you're a hippie who does bite work. Totally no, like we're kind of the same person, I know I love it that's why I followed you way back, when I show up to like all of these, like sporty events, and I have like my ripped jeans yeah, baggy clothes and you know everybody else is in like black all black.
Speaker 2:I know, I know it's so funny.
Speaker 1:No, but it's cool. Like I'm, I love seeing other people in the space and I feel like it's becoming more popular. You know, and like I love, like what Shane Murray has done. I think he's made, like you know, the sportier side of stuff very accessible to people and that's a huge part of it is a lot of us have pit bulls and shepherds and they were bred for a specific purpose, Absolutely, and it's really important for us to prioritize that, as their owners like and see them for who they are.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know your dog is bred to bite. You know, give them an outlet for that instead of just, you know, suppressing that Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, and it's pretty wild too because, um, so I had my uncle adopt my dog's sister Okay, so she's. So I had my uncle adopt my dog's sister Okay, so she's in the family. They are 100% on both sides related and my dog's sister, actually, when they were puppies, did attack her, and that was when I really had my wake up and I was like, oh shoot, these aren't necessarily fully pets and I don't want to raise mine as that. I want to help her have this outlet so that she can be who she is.
Speaker 1:So that she can exist. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:This pent up energy.
Speaker 2:That itself comes with a responsibility in working with the right people to learn how to do that and handle your dog, which I'm so grateful for that in my community. But you know, it just depends on the person. You know whether you're a pet person, a sport person, you know a competition working dog person. There are so many things that contribute to the whole rounded wellness of a dog. It's never going to be just one thing. It's never. It's never. I'm going to tell you this right now and we tell people all day long. Our supplements will help you, but they will never be the full thing that is going to contribute to your dog. It's everything, yeah, that makes the whole compass work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so what are some like actionable things that people can do to limit inflammation in their dogs? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I just posted about this on the matrix account. It was, I think I titled it like the top five things you can do at the end of 2024, before 2025, to get your dog on like a healthy start. Um, improving the quality of their food, you know, doesn't matter where you are. If you are somebody who uses maybe not the greatest kibble and you know that something's out there, you can totally make that micro change that creates the macro and make a little bit of an improvement in that kibble. What do you feed your dogs? So I feed my dog Raw. Since she was a puppy, I brought her home at 10 weeks old. She was exposed to kibble for five days and just myself and who I am as a person, I said we're going to change that and I did.
Speaker 2:But not everybody can. Some people have seven dogs, some people have 12 dogs, just depending on their community, um, and they don't have access to that. So from a kibble standpoint, I really like to recommend open farm for people who do have that. Obviously. Um, sundays for dogs is really coming up for a lot of people. Um, z-whees that's, you know, air dried but smaller batch, but love using those as treat reward systems for the people who use kibble. So there's always a way to make it work um cleaning up the home, the home environment, environmentally, um making the switch, if somebody can, using less harsh chemicals to using cleaner chemicals what do you use?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm very hippie in this department.
Speaker 3:I would hear it. For the past 20 years I make my own.
Speaker 2:How'd you know?
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:So for the past 20 years I've used vinegar water, and I am a huge essential oil buff. I do not use perfumes at all, and so I use On Guard from doctera to help clean my environment. Nice, yes, my floors counters everything, yeah, so I'm all about that, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what like got me into all of that stuff is right before COVID I decided that like in college, I studied microplastics in the ocean, and this was like before.
Speaker 2:microplastics in the ocean, and this was like before. Michael, yeah, are you gonna go to school to be a marine biologist? I was me too. No way. I went to school in hawaii no way yeah, I was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why I like went to school in orlando, because I was like, oh, I want to do, I want to be closer to the coast, you know, yeah, so I got into a coastal estuarine lab, ecology lab, and I did like a short study abroad trip in Belize. Amazing, and we were on. We were like, stayed on this island and we took water samples, but the island was reserved for research only. Yes, so it's untouchable by basically everybody. I don't know that I'll ever experience that again in my life, but like the wildlife and the untouched, like coral reefs absolutely insane, yeah, like when there's no human impact amazing, amazing, it's so incredible. And then we would like immediately drive off of the reserve and it's like night and day. Yeah, yeah, it was so crazy.
Speaker 1:Um, and so like our time when we were staying on this island, like same thing, like no harsh chemicals, you know, like we had a compost toilet, like we would fish for our meals that day, like everything came from like whole foods we weren't, you know, eating processed things and, um, we took water samples when we were on this island and then when we went back to Orlando, I processed everything and we were like counting the microplastics in all of it and it's absolutely insane how many microplastics were in water. That was on a reservation, that was like untouched by people, but just because of currents and like everything else, that was like pushing it. And so then I compared it to, you know, water samples by like the coast of Florida, and that was like absolutely insane. And then I went down the rabbit hole of I was like, oh my gosh, plastic's going to kill us all. It's in our blood, like it's, it's everywhere.
Speaker 2:It's everywhere.
Speaker 1:So I did the. I went an entire year without buying anything plastic, which is insane. Absolutely insane and during that year I learned how to make all of my own cleaning supplies. You know, I actually looked into like oh, what happens when we eat off a plastic plate? Like we're literally consuming microplastics, like that's, um, you know, like the chemicals in that like influence your hormones and your everything they're all endocrine disruptors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, and since you're talking about microplastics, let's talk about dog beds for a minute yes, polyester yeah dog toys.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think, oh, that's another big thing. I don't buy like plastic toys for my dogs. Yes, and I'm a crazy person. Yes, you know and everybody's like well, your dog doesn't have toys and I'm like I don't want them chewing on plastic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah, yeah, you mean, you know these the fluffy, you know stuff, toys that are made out of polyester, like those are all microplastics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are all microplastics, things like bark box, where, like every month, you're getting a box of just like plastic toys and then your dog destroys them and probably is swallowing some pieces of it. You know, like all our dogs just swallow the fluff, yeah, and then we throw it away. Yeah, right, and it's never going to go away. I know it's literally never chemicals.
Speaker 1:It's literally never going away. I know, but my year of like, really focusing on like I'm not going to buy anything plastic made me realize all of this stuff and how, every single day, to be some level, like I had to have money right, like you have to have money to avoid plastic yeah, you do right, healthy.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, in this country, you have to have a, you know, a solid income, a reliable source, a resource to something. I mean we can talk about raw milk here. Um, you know, with everything that's happening in the world right now, um, with certain regulations and raw milk, that we shouldn't have to go searching for it here in this parking lot where we are. About 12 years ago I used to buy raw milk here from the amish in the back of a trunk I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know much about raw milk. Tell me the things.
Speaker 2:Well, how can we summarize this? It's an incredibly bioavailable food source. So companies like, I believe, open Farm even they have a raw goat's milk For the same purposes that people give their dogs goat's milk. Raw milk is bioavailable, so it is extremely nourishing. But we shouldn't have to be fighting to have health. It shouldn't cost so much. But it's not even like legal right here in the state of california it is okay in florida.
Speaker 1:It's not, it's not correct. Yes, yeah, okay um new york. I believe it's also illegal there as well yeah, so like I had this little grocery store that was by me and it's like for dogs only you know, but like everybody would go and buy it for themselves. It wasn't sold to dogs, but like that was kind of the like go around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah. And you know, like, even with that, it's like all these people that we have coming together. You know, even right now, just having this conversation, the training space, nutritional awareness to different degrees, and everybody banding together so that we can all be a part of the change. And there is that responsibility, I feel, coming into the, into this industry with our company to reset the standard. But we also know we can't do it by ourselves. We have to have people that understand what we're doing, that have their own specialties, to band together to create the change that we and our animals deserve to experience because of the amount of degradation that's taken place in the industry over the past, however many decades you know, from poor quality kibble, which do you know the story of kibble?
Speaker 1:No, not really, really.
Speaker 2:At one point I looked it up and I don't remember, so basically, like I don't remember what year it was, but it's just a convenience thing, yeah, and they were like making biscuits, yeah, because there was such scarcity of food uh, I don't remember what year, but such scarcity of food that they were just like what do they call it? Hobgosh orosh, or basically like a melting pot of whatever Munchpodge.
Speaker 3:Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:Munchpodge, hodgepodge, whatever, and just like they baked it down and made it into biscuits. And that was where the industry started. So we all come together. Here we are today. It's about to be 2025. We all link arms and create the change in our own ways, but together, and that's really what I feel is happening right now in the revival of the industry of giving dogs access to health and every degree, from nutrition to training, to genetic outlets, to activities, to grounding, to a healthy environment, so that you know we can make this change now.
Speaker 1:So, let's just say, in maybe 10, 15 years, these problems are no longer problems and we can expand the life that dogs get to deserve and hopefully that has a trickle effect into the other types of animals too yeah, for sure, and I think it's like a nice little highlight for us as well, because sometimes it's easier to focus on a being outside of ourselves for sure right like I love researching dog nutrition and I'm like I'm gonna eat this giant cinnamon roll, you know, sure, but it does like bring to light, like you know we were talking about, like all of the supplements that you have to offer, which we'll bring up here in a second.
Speaker 1:but I'm like man, I you know like I need something that's like that for myself. You know, like I have recently like kind of in my like journey of my dog training career I've definitely gone from. I was on all the time Like I don't really know the term for it, but I was basically in like flight or flight 24-7.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:Because, like in dog training, there's like always something. There's always something. Like there's a dog at the house, oh, the dog like hurt its paw. Oh, this dog got into a fight with this dog, or you know, like a trainer got sick, or you know something, there's always something. And so you're always just kind of like on edge.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I've been meeting with a lot of dog trainers recently and we're all the same, we're all just like waiting for something to happen yeah, yeah and since kind of like shutting down my business, I've realized like I've been able to almost have a bird's eye view of like my body and I feel myself coming in and out of that and the only reason I feel myself coming out of that is because before I was just in it constantly yeah.
Speaker 1:I was just constantly anxious, like I never slept. I would literally like I was a crazy. I'm still a little bit of a crazy person, but like I was a crazy person, like I was working 24 7, I would sleep like five hours a night. I would not eat, I would drink two cups of coffee in the morning, like I'm sure my adrenals were just like going wild, sure, sure.
Speaker 3:And you, I didn't really notice it until I relaxed, yeah, until you stepped out until I stepped out and you know toma the first thing you eat in the day is like 2 pm because, like you had so many things, we had so many other things like dogs to take care of.
Speaker 1:And you know, like you wake up, I would wake up and just my stomach would drop, because I know that day is going to be the day is on until we are back here in bed and close our eyes again.
Speaker 1:You know, until you wake up, yeah literally, and so I was getting to the point where, like I would have two seconds in the morning before the wall of anxiety would hit me and something that, like Toma and I have talked a lot about is like this break from my business has been really good, because I'm actually recognizing that like, oh, I was like killing myself, Like I was just always on and like I think that kind of goes into like the vagal nerve right, yeah, vagal, nerve, yep, yes, 100%.
Speaker 1:And so I think it's important to bring up how us being like that can affect our dogs and affect all of the animals that we live with.
Speaker 2:Yes, 100%. So obviously a dog and their olfactory system right, they can pick up senses and all these things, but they, many of us know already, can detect our emotions through our skin, the pheromones that we as humans produce, and literally what they can smell immediately, the feelings and emotions, through the HPA, which is the hypothalamus pituitary axis. And it's just, it's the system that emits our emotions to them and so they pick up on that. So even for therapy dogs, I love what they do, but imagine the taxation on their systems too.
Speaker 3:Yes, Because they're absorbing everything.
Speaker 2:Yes so, medical alert dogs.
Speaker 1:Dogs that have jobs.
Speaker 2:Yes, they play very important roles for people and the amount of taxation they take on as well. So we have a huge passion for supporting dogs like that and helping dogs like that so that they are not living in a chronic state of inflammation while they perform their roles and duties. I myself am very passionate about that. We have a lot of people. I work with one of our ambassadors, von Wolfenfels K9, over in new york, and he is a veteran. He's a dog trainer, also does protection work, and he has an incredible organization. He's also a breeder as well and he donates dogs to veterans who have ptsd, and so the amount of responsibility that these dogs have, it's a very big deal, yeah, a very big deal. So, um, we're very passionate about that. Um, you know we're passionate about all dogs, but there's a really big soft spot in our hearts for those types of dogs who are working on a daily basis where humans rely on them yes, yeah, or like even the valor dogs you know um.
Speaker 1:So our friend mike jones he's like part of a non-profit that trains personal protection dogs for survivors of human trafficking.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that's something that we've been like talking about is like you know that a lot of them have like been through these really traumatic experiences and like the dogs aren't just there to protect them but like they're kind of emotional support yes, you know, absolutely like they play a larger role than just like a ppd and often like the best, like personal protection dogs that I see, or like when I see a dog and I'm like that dog would be a good like ppd, like river the malinois that we rescued, he would be a phenomenal pbd because he's very like in tune, sure, you know, and like the dogs that are like, very empathetic and very in tune to their environment and to their person. That has to be taxing on them absolutely, you know absolutely 100 so you brought us a couple things.
Speaker 1:What are you, you going to say?
Speaker 3:Toma, Just on that same note, River in the shelter environment that was so taxing.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can imagine.
Speaker 3:He was there for 10 days and when we picked him up he was not going to survive.
Speaker 1:We were literally like oh, we'll see what happens, we're going to see if we can save you. But I was like I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make it. And it was just because, like he's a really sensitive dog, sure, or like he's so big, he's not trained at all, he's literally like feral, yeah, but he's so good, he's very sweet and he's very intuitive. And like the other day he went to like push out of the crate. And I'm like trying to shove a leash on him so he doesn't just run out of the car, you know, and I was like no, and I like smacked him on his head, like on his forehead, and he was like, oh my gosh, and he like crawls into his crate and I was like I'm sorry you know, like, but he's just such a like sensitive dog.
Speaker 1:You know he's like you hurt my feelings and I was like I'm sorry, like I just don't want you running out of the car you know, of course, but like dogs, like him, like being in the shelter environment, I think like the staff said they never saw like a dog deteriorate that much yeah, they're like.
Speaker 3:So fast he deteriorated and on the flip side, like when he was like finally in our van five days.
Speaker 2:He's, like you know, just like back to it amazing and it really does go to show how much environment has so much of an effect on a dog.
Speaker 3:Like he wasn't eating or anything, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they were literally like we're throwing like raw beef at him and we can't get him to eat it, and then, like I don't know, it took him like a day and he's like eating, you know, like seven cups of food a day, cause we were trying to put weight on him night and day, night and day just from the environment and like the stress of that environment and that's like a whole other thing they absorb.
Speaker 2:So much, they absorb so much. And you know, I will say, um, working with all types of dogs and working with dogs who do come from rescue and have experienced so much trauma, um, those dogs, of course, come with a huge amount of nervous system stress and digestive stress as well, and so we really like to encourage people to think of the two systems as one the nervous system and the gut. So, if your dog has a dysregulated gut, look at their nervous system. What are the things that you can improve within their nervous system? How can you support it? And vice versa. They really are one of the same. They are hyper-connected. And just encourage people to reach out if they have questions. Don't go chasing symptoms. Go towards the root for those types of situations, because if you go to the root, you can address everything at one time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm excited to try it with Hawk.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's who I'm thinking of.
Speaker 1:Toma's mouth is very neurotic, his head is always on a swivel and Toma's a little bit like that, so he's just kind of.
Speaker 2:Similar to our conversation.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, so he's very twitchy and the other day we were training him and asking him to sit still and he pooped.
Speaker 2:Nervous poop Got it or it's like Adrenal dumping.
Speaker 1:Essentially, yes, yes, exactly, and it's like, bro, we're just asking you to sit there. We're not doing anything crazy, but he can't. And also his background Toma didn't get him until he was like a year old. He was just kind of like passed around and was just like mostly left in like a fenced in pen, got it, you know.
Speaker 3:And so he's just like being reactive all day long at the fence Charged yeah. To the point where, like the guy was like I got to get rid of this dog because my neighbors are complaining that he's always barking, but like with us, he's really not like he doesn't bark in the crate, he's quiet but his needs are met with you guys, for sure, but then also, like we said, both mouths are on raw, yeah, and especially with him, like I struggle to put weight on him, like that's the other thing, you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's talk about this we've had so many dogs, so many dogs different breeds, of course, um, and mouths as well, um, but all dogs, the dogs that have nervous system stress, they are usually the ones who are underweight. They cannot hold or retain nutrition, um. So what ends up happening is typically the pattern is about anywhere from 48 weeks for not 48 428, um, where they start rebuilding their body from the inside out. They support the nervous system with think, they have their entire musculoskeletal system in joint support with move, and then protect for the gut and immune support. So all three are used at once. Yes, you can use all three of them at once, literally within one meal. And so what ends up happening is you're basically putting the dog through a full body reset as the protect is rebuilding their gut. Now they're able to hold nutrition, the nervous system is intact, so all of a sudden, oh, my dog is able to put on healthy weight. We feed, we feed them so much I believe it.
Speaker 3:You would die if you saw wasted, oh yeah we literally spoke about that earlier this week like there's no point feeding him more. It's just not getting absorbed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly yeah. Um. We've had a um 14 year old doxy um who had severe IBD um could not necessarily uh function to her fullest All of a sudden start putting on healthy weight as well. We've had stage four IBD with the dog who has also been on prednisone on some other drugs as well for pancreatitis. With the assistance of her vet to help her transition into a holistic lifestyle. The assistance of her vet to help her transition into a holistic lifestyle, transition completely off of her medications and put healthy weight back on. This dog was in a complete deficit of nutrition on prednisone that's so bad, long term right it is oh my gosh, it is horrible.
Speaker 2:Um, this dog couldn't hold any nutrition and she was a small terrier. Um, actually, she left a review on our website to her. Uh, the owner's name is michrier. Actually, she left a review on our website to her. The owner's name is Michelle, so anybody can go look at that on our website. All of a sudden starts holding nutrition and has positive nutritional scores.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:So rebuild the gut, support the nervous system, address inflammation, and amazing things can happen. You do not have to chase symptoms.
Speaker 1:I'm so excited. So you brought us all types of goodies. Can you tell us what each one is and what it does?
Speaker 2:Absolutely so. For everybody listening all of our jars, they are toppers. We have small and medium breed and we have large and XL breed. The only difference between the jars is just the volume. All the compounds are the same and they last 30 days. So Move is our full body anti-inflammatory. It is our musculoskeletal support. People would use it as a joint support. So full body inflammation, that's what that addresses.
Speaker 2:Think is our nervous system support. We highly encourage that for all dogs, especially sports and working dogs especially. Along with the move to, it cools down the nervous system. It allows the nervous system to regulate itself so that the dog can be very clear, focused. It does not take the drive out of a dog. If somebody is working their dog. It actually helps that dog make clearer decisions and be much more focused and it also, at the same time, can help a dog regulate to be calm. So it really depends on the dog itself and how their wiring actually works.
Speaker 2:Protect is our immune and gut support. That is the support that has the peptides. It rebuilds the gut from the inside out. You will use that before you use probiotics and you will definitely supercharge your immune system so that it can deal with inflammatory responses. And then calm. Calm is different than think, so calm is our nervous system support as well. The difference is that it's on demand. So let's just say, for example, you're out working your dog, you want your dog to go into a state of decompression. You can absolutely give the calm spray after a working session so that your dog can move out of drive and go into a state of decompression. So okay, so for the dogs who work or compete or in sport to any degree like that, I typically will recommend you can either use it after your session or give it to them while they're being kenneled to go to sleep.
Speaker 2:Most dogs don't sleep, especially males yeah so the more that we can help them achieve a greater state of sleep, the greater it can reset. If they're not sleeping, they're not resetting. Sleep has the entire intention to help the body replete, replenish, to get rid of toxins that are in the body. So if the dog's not sleeping, guess what the dog's not doing that? So it'll give them a nice, clean sleep so that they can wake up, and you'll be amazed to actually see the changes in their behavior the next day as you continue to use it, because they're actually achieving sleep.
Speaker 3:So how long?
Speaker 1:So tell what's our protocol so super easy to use.
Speaker 2:You only have to give these supports one time a day, so you can choose. Whenever you feed your dog, you just literally put it on top of the food. Be calm spray. There's three applications. I personally think the easiest way to do it is just spray it on your hand, have them lick it off, condition them to understand that it's a treat. That's what I've done with my dog. You could spray it in the mouth, but honestly, that's just. It's just harder.
Speaker 2:I personally think such spray it on your hand or on their food. They can eat it like that, okay, um, the cool thing about our supports is because of our technology and the way that we encapsulate the compounds. If you are somebody who cooks your dog's food and you make homemade food, the compounds are not disrupted. If you cook them in heat, if you make your own treats and you bake them, they're not disrupted that big. It's a huge deal, yeah yeah, if you make DIY freeze treats, you can totally do that with these as well. I like to make calm bombs. I'll do kefir with think and calm and when I am making them I'll give it to my dog before going to bed. That way she can achieve a great state of sleep. So whether you cook or freeze with them, it doesn't ruin the compounds at all.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. I'm genuinely like so excited.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so good, so good.
Speaker 3:The calm one. You're like knocking out the dog for like the evening.
Speaker 2:You can, it depends on how you want to use it. So like with my dog if I'm going. She's a freak for her family, she just and she's a pity too. So we all know how that goes Like she's.
Speaker 2:She's just one massive love bomb, yeah. So if I'm going over to my family's house, I will give her eight sprays just to help her chill out a little bit, just about 10 to 20 minutes before. Yeah, so that's, that's how quick it actually is. If I want to have her go to sleep, I'll give her maybe 10 to 11. Okay, yeah, and she's still very puppy, like she will be three, but she's just a massive puppy. Yeah, like just her personality is just a massive puppy. So she's just like super hyped when she's with her people. So if I want to bring her down, that's what I have found to be her measurement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I think this is. I think this is huge and I love everything that you've like created. It's definitely needed in this space.
Speaker 2:Thank you, yeah, we are. We are so thrilled to be doing what we're doing. Um, we're incredibly grateful. Um, you know, like I said in the beginning, we are a family business. We have done this grassroots. We have been very slow to grow on purpose, because we are doing all of this by ourselves. We are, we are the customer service, we are the face doing this on a daily basis with our incredible community way. We could be where we are without our ambassadors that we have and we're so grateful for them. We call them the pet matrix ambassador fam. Um, so we love them and we're just so grateful for every single step of this journey. Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:I think you're gonna make like such a big impact. I'm sure you already have and I don't know. One thing that I always kind of preach on is people are so willing to invest in like silly toys and puzzle things and bark box and you know all of this stuff. But I I'm not like that with my dogs.
Speaker 1:Like I, we spend an astronomical amount on food each month oh yeah because that's what's important to me you know, like I'm not going, I don't spend a lot of money because I want to prioritize that you know, and so that's something that I would want to like encourage to you know everybody out there is, like, maybe, instead of spending your money on things like that, you focus more on investing in, you know, supplements or whole foods that are actually going to make like such a huge impact on your dog's health. We, we are the same person?
Speaker 2:Yes, we are. I literally tell people well, what can you eliminate from your own personal life that you could reallocate to make the healthier choice? Yes, all the time. Yeah, because we can all make that choice. Yeah, a dog shaking, I was like shoot A dog. I know we are on the side.
Speaker 1:We, we are on the side, we getting taken out guys, yeah, literally, I know no, sometimes the dogs will like make crazy noises and we're like what the heck is that? Yeah, I'm like it's authentic when we're like recording with like the dogs barking in the background.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, she was running in her sleep over there. I was watching that and talking it. It was so great.
Speaker 3:It was so perfect. They've all been pretty quiet. They've actually been really great. Yeah, we got six dogs in the van right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's actually really good.
Speaker 3:Not bad.
Speaker 1:So for starting all of this, should I do it with all of the dogs? I would pick one.
Speaker 2:I would start with one. That way you have a control and you're able to see, because that'll give you a solid month to transition the dog from the inside out. One jar will last a month for one dog. We have plenty of people that will say, well, can I split it between two dogs? You can, but it will last you two weeks. So the scoops are very accurate. Measure them appropriately. It will last you a month and then you'll be able to see that transition.
Speaker 1:And you said you're sold out.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, we're about to have.
Speaker 1:I'm happy for you, but I'm bummed because I want to go and spend all my money on this right now it's a really great problem to have and for anybody listening.
Speaker 2:um, depending when is this airing?
Speaker 1:probably like in two days. Okay, cool, so for anybody listening.
Speaker 2:Um, yes, we will be stocked back um here shortly, in the weeks to come. These are the dms that we are sending out and the emails that we are sending out, and it's such an incredible problem to have. Um, and I will say this uh, we really started to scale exponentially as a company, um, really, when we entered the work and sports space. Yeah, just because the mindsets are different, yes and um.
Speaker 2:We're very grateful for that because they are helping us to see where this serves so well in helping their dogs. But, yes, we will be back in stock in the weeks to come. We do have Think in stock, move will protect, stocked out first, then move, and so, yes, in the weeks to come we will have it all, and you have like recurring stuff, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes as in like subscription.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, yes in the weeks to come, we will have it all, and you have like recurring stuff, right?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:As in like subscription, yes, oh yes, absolutely so. Anybody can sign up for a subscription and they save 15% every month, and we do recommend that. One of the questions that we get often is well, how long do I have to do this? Well, health is an investment every single day, so we really look at this as building internal resilience, so we encourage you to incorporate it on a daily basis for as long as you are willing, really. Um, it's a daily investment for our dogs to have them have the ability to fight off what they're combating every single day yeah um, so that's a really big deal okay, no, I mean I'm gonna
Speaker 1:like you sold me, like I'm literally sold. Uh, I don't have an address though, so that's fine, we're gonna have to work that out, that's fine. At least I'll be like oh, stop by somewhere and come and pick up a box.
Speaker 2:that that's totally fine. Yeah, I have a small reserve in my house for special people.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like so invested, like we really are kind of the same person Before we close out. I think it might be really valuable. We, you know, we've like emphasized dogs and like what we can do to better our dogs and like help their nervous system. But like what are some things that you do personally to like?
Speaker 2:help yourself. So, literally all the same things I do for my dog and I know that sounds super crazy um, I, so I limit a lot of exposure to harsh chemicals. Um, I incorporate the grounding, just like I do with my dog. Um, with that, I spend a lot of time with my dog. With that, I spend a lot of time with my dog. However, I through my own process of having my dog as an adult it's very different than having it as a younger child of knowing, okay, you know what, it's okay for my dog to stay home and create that space when I need just my own morning meditation at the beach.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I'll take my bird instead of my dog and that sounds kind of weird, but it's a nice swap out because the energy is different. I myself, for the most part, live a similar food style, like my dog as well, and live a carnivore lifestyle for the most part, not 100 percent but say about 90 percent. But yeah, we both drink raw milk, we both consume I don't eat raw meat like she does. But amazingly we're pretty similar and that has a lot to do with humans and canines being quite similar. We have the same biochemical processes, same biological processes. The biggest difference is our anatomy. So I follow that to a T. I've just been in the wellness space for such a long time and creating space for energy flow is really important for me. And faith and law of attraction, all of everything, and nature is the nurture yes, Preach.
Speaker 1:I love it. Yes, I love it.
Speaker 3:With the think you mentioned that it's cooling. Yes, um, obviously you know you're out of stock right now, but as far as like food goes, do you know like what proteins are more cooling versus like hot? Because I know that?
Speaker 2:like that's a really great question. Um, you know, I don't have a solid answer that to that, but if I were to think about it, I would assume that leaner meats would be more cooling because fats are insulating. If I were to break it down in my head, I would think that I think it's like turkey and things like that are cooling yeah rabbit turkey, and I actually feed my dog.
Speaker 2:I feed her turkey because I do prefer to keep her lean. However, her tubes are tied so she does have a heat and when she is approaching her heat I give her more beef to be able to replenish her iron and blood stores and it makes a lot of sense, yeah, yeah, but other than that I do keep her lean, um, and it's actually just so people know it's actually better to underfeed than overfeed your dog really important, really important.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean it kind of goes into like fasting exactly their primal nature. Yes, they're not meant to eat. Oh my gosh, that was such a big thing with my owners and not just in like the training realm of things where it's really hard to train a dog. That's like overfed. But these dogs are eating like every second of the day. They're like oh, they need a bone. Oh, they need a snack. Oh, now it's time for dinner. Oh it's this and it's like you're never giving your dog the opportunity to recover.
Speaker 2:yeah, you know, because it's the fast food mentality, it's the the drug loop of the brain. Just constantly keep it going through that hyper loop of fast food they don't even have like downtime to settle yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah, it really is just like a full picture it is yeah, yeah 100 all little pieces of the puzzle.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, thank you so much. This was so great. I love everything that you have going on. I'm so excited to try these supplements, like it's really what I've been looking for and I told you that I was I was looking into, like the supplement world a little bit, because I was like, oh, this would be interesting.
Speaker 1:I was making my own supplement, like herbal supplements for my dogs, and so I tried to. I didn't get too far into the space, sure, but it was one of those things and, like me and him have talked about this, I was like I don't want to do it unless I can, like do it well I don't want to just white label slap my name on some stuff if, like I know, it's not actually having an impact and like you've done that, like you've actually done that, you've created something really awesome we have and once you have your experience, you are more than welcome if you'd like to join our ambassador family, oh
Speaker 2:my gosh we put everybody through an experience, just so everybody knows that, um, we, with our ambassador program, we actually don't allow people to activate as an ambassador unless they've tried our supports for 30 days. Um, and that's because we stand in the results of our product. So, um, we do not judge people based on their followings If they would like to be an ambassador or not. Um, all people are welcome and anybody can apply. So if that feels right for anyone, they can give us a shot and try us out. It's on us. We give the product for free and you get to try it. And if it feels right for you, then, amazing, welcome to the fam. I love it.
Speaker 2:Where can people find you? They can find us on Instagram. If you go to Petmatrix P-E-T-M-A-T-R-X on Instagram. You can go to PetMatrixcom. We have all of our information there. We have a free e-magazine that we call the Science of Pet Wellness that you can find. It actually has a lot of the things that we talked about about home environments, internal, external factors that you can do at home that have nothing to do with product. Um, to enhance the wellness for your dog. Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Thank you so much thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2:You guys that might have to like make a whole new bed here might just sleep we have another van I that's kind of it's been acting as our guest house.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh has it. So whenever I get that like cleaned up, I'll be like let's go to the beach you can have my van yeah, it'll be so fantastic.
Speaker 2:We've been wanting to live, uh, the van life with our office on the go, so this is actually quite timely.
Speaker 1:It's very cool yeah, it would be like we're kind of living the half van life, like we just got this and the fridge oh my gosh but before we didn't have like batteries, so we had no power and it was like very difficult. We had to go into a coffee shop every day to like work. I would not recommend that type of van life, like, if you're gonna do it, do it bougie.
Speaker 2:Like get a shower. I will have oysters in my van amazing yes of zinc, by the way.
Speaker 1:No, but it's funny because when I started I was like we don't need a shower. I was like, are you sure?
Speaker 2:We need a shower LA Fitness. That's quite the personal question.
Speaker 1:No, it's like everybody wants to know.
Speaker 2:I'm totally going to refer you to a place that I will not mention on here, because anytime I post it I always put the location. Do not ask me, give me the secret spots, but after I will tell you and they have a shower there.
Speaker 3:Oh amazing.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's very valuable. That's like become the new like topic for us is everybody's like do you need a shower?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, please they. They do have a shower here as well. Yeah, in case you need it.
Speaker 1:It's a little too cold for me to shower outside. What are you trying to say right now? Oh man, this is so good.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for coming and sitting in our van and chatting about all things dogs. I love it. Thank you for all the amazing work you're doing.
Speaker 1:Oh, thank you so much. I'm so flattered it was a pleasure. Thank you doing. Oh, thank you so much. I'm so flattered. It was a pleasure and thank you all so much for listening. We will see you back here next week.