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The Everyday Trainer Podcast
The Everyday Trainer Podcast
When Does A Correction Become Clarity?
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Your dog is calm one minute, then loses their mind at the window the next and you’re left wondering if you’re helping or making it worse. We pull back the curtain on one of our weekly group coaching calls inside my online dog training community and get very real about the mechanics that actually change behavior: how you use marker words, how you proof obedience around distractions, and how to stop reactivity without living in constant conflict.
First, we tackle a sneaky problem that shows up in classes and multi-dog homes: your dog hears you say “yes” to another dog and breaks position like they just got called to a party. We talk through how to proof that picture using place training, clear boundaries, and consistent follow-through so your dog learns context instead of guessing. If you’ve ever felt like your markers “don’t work,” this will sharpen your timing fast.
Then we dig into reactive barking at windows and doors after a move, including how to think about e-collar corrections as information versus noise. I explain the difference between an interrupter that stops the moment and a true punishment that changes the next choice, plus what consistency should look like day to day. We also cover when it makes sense to skip e-collar conditioning for a dangerous backyard habit versus when you should slow down and condition properly for broader off-leash reliability.
Finally, you’ll hear live training: cleaner position changes with open-hand versus closed-fist lures, why short sessions protect motivation, and early e-collar conditioning through place sends with a young Lab learning how to turn pressure off. If you want practical dog training advice you can apply immediately, hit play, then subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so more dog owners can find the show.
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Community Call Preview And Setup
SPEAKER_00Hello and welcome back to the Everyday Trainer Podcast. My name is Meg, and I am a dog trainer. This week is a little sneak peek into my online community. If you don't know, I have an online dog training community, and each week I do a live group call with everybody. We either do a QA or a live training session or both. In this call, we actually do both. So we dive into correcting or barking at the window to what our active training sessions need to look like. It's a really good episode. It's a bit shorter than normal, but we have a lot of good conversations out there. So I know you guys are gonna love it. Every stuffy trade is back there. But I have a lot of good little insights that I feel will be helpful to you, the listener, and also push you to join my online community. We have a really awesome group that shows up every Thursday at two, and I answer questions, we have group discussions, we do live training sessions, I'll do a little highlight. So if anybody in the community has something specific that they want to work on, we can highlight you and I will coach you live in that session on whatever it is that you're working on with your dog in that moment. So in this call, we start off with a bit of a QA, which is how I start most of my calls. So you'll kind of hear us, you know, do a little bit of banter there, but then I get into our live training session. So this is what I really wanted to break down for you guys because I do clip a lot of it out. All of these are recorded, so you can get access to them if you're in the community or if you've done my virtual shadow program before. All of these weekly calls and live sessions are always recorded in there. So we do two active training sessions. The first one is with Muffin. I typically always train Muffin so that you guys can see the progression of our training. She's my kind of focused dog right now. So in this call, we covered positions. We talk about an open hand lure versus a closed hand lure, what the difference of those when we use them. And somebody asked the question of how can I teach the stand from a fit position. So that session I would say is very sporty advanced obedience. And in the second session, we get into e-color conditioning with a seven-month-old lab pup. So he is very new. We've only done about three sessions. I believe this was our third that we just did today. And I'm doing place sends with him. So just to kind of give you some context of what that is, it's essentially two placecots in front of me, and I'm sending the dog from one placecot to the other. And when I say tap, tap, tap, I'm tapping on the stim button on our e-collar just to kind of give you guys a little bit of context there. So I'm in the beginning stages of e-collar conditioning with him. So that means I'm teaching him how to turn the sensation off. So I'm gonna say place, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, he goes on plate, all four paws are on plate, I stop tapping. I'm teaching him, hey, when you feel a sensation, listen to what I'm asking, follow through to turn that sensation off. So that is the first stage of e-color conditioning, which is what we're working on there. So just wanted to give you guys a little bit of context before we dive into the call, but enjoy.
SPEAKER_03Um, I was wondering like how you get your dogs used to not reacting to your markers if you're like training another dog in front of them.
SPEAKER_04What is your dog doing?
SPEAKER_03Let's say if I like handed him off to like a helper or somebody else in a class, and then let's I'm doing a demo with somebody else's dog. So they're just like on leash with somebody else, and like he'll just like if I say yes, he won't shoot back. So he's like, he's just getting really confused. Can you put him in obedience? Put him in a downstair. I can put him in a downstair and like play with another dog and he'll hold it, but if I say yes, he'll break and come to me.
SPEAKER_04Then that's just something that I would prove. Okay, so um, do you have training dogs that aren't yours?
SPEAKER_03I don't have any like boredom trains. Um, I might be taking a foster for another trainer I know soon. So that's kind of why it's been like top of mind. But I have I have a dog I could borrow to do a training session, I think.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, then just proof that. And that's something that we do like here is we'll put the dogs in a down and then or we I do place mostly, like that is my middle to place because like the boundary of the place caught is really helpful. Um proof it, you know. So like I'll train another dog, I have e-collar on. You break, no, e-collar skills on, you go back into a down, you go back to playing because they're they're smart enough to understand context, we just have to teach it. Cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_03I guess I just need to be able to set up the right situation, then yeah.
SPEAKER_04It's tough too when you just kind of like hand them off to somebody because it's not I feel like it's not just like your marker words, it's probably like a little bit of FOMO too. Yeah, so you have like an extra level of difficulty. Yeah, but yeah, that just shows me like okay, this is something that I need to proof in my training, then like there's a hole there, so I'll just work on that, you know. Yeah, okay, cool. What's up, guys? Hello, how are we? Good, how are you? Good.
SPEAKER_01Um things have been really good actually lately. Um, we finally like about 10 months in. I feel like we've had a really good place with Craig training, which sounds crazy, but it really did take 10 months. So there are still times when she freaks out, especially when we're home, but I feel like she could tell when we're leaving and she kind of like goes over there voluntarily and knows what's going on. And while we're gone, I don't get like any alerts that she's freaking out sometimes. Like we're usually gone for like the same amount of time, like maybe like three hours. Like if we're like at the gym or going out to dinner or whatever the case is. She, I don't know, around that like three-hour mark, maybe she'll cry a little bit, but not a lot, and she'll kind of just wait. Um, very nice, yeah, which is like so exciting. I never thought that I would see the day.
SPEAKER_04Um it's getting so real. And you're like, oh, 10 months. I'm like, I feel like I just hit the point where Muffin is chill, and she's like 14 months, 15 months.
Stopping Window Barking Reactivity
SPEAKER_01Honestly, many times I would think of you saying that about Muffin and it would make me feel better. So that kept me going in the dark days. But recently, something that's been coming up, we moved before our apartment was like kind of set behind two other apartments. It's pretty like quiet and private. Now we're in a larger house, which has been awesome because my cats are stoked to not be like squished next to my dog all the time. But my dog Frankie has started like really getting reactive at like every window, every door, every noise, every car, dog, anything. And I'll have her like outside with me sometimes, just like hanging in the on the front lawn with her e-collar on, no leaves for anything. And she's pretty chill, like doesn't really care. But it's I can tell it's when when we're inside the house. Um, so I'm just having a little bit of trouble with that. We don't have AC, so I do need to be able to have like the windows open, um, especially in the summer. So I just want to figure out how to best respond to that so I'm not like making it worse and so that I'm not also not addressing it. Yeah. What have you done so far? So usually I try and like distract her or call her back from from whatever she's barking at, either like to play or to treat her, but I don't think that that's been enough because you know sometimes she'll just run and go back. I also have been using the e-collar on like maybe I'll do the lowest stem. She's tiny, so I have her on a three, and then the increase is five more, so it gets it to an eight on the mini educator. Um, so I'll start with the lower stem and then the higher one, which usually works. Um, but I just don't know if it that's like I don't know. I don't I feel like it's like putting a band-aid on it, and I'm not like addressing the actual issue of her being really stressed about people, gardeners. Um, and she can tell the difference recently between people coming in who like are here to hang out and people who are coming in here to do work in the house. Like we had a lot of construction, and I think that played into it, but she's just gotten more reactive than she ever was when she was younger.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Okay, so you said you're using the e-collar and you said that that works. Um how consistent are you with it? So do you like correct her one time at that higher level? And then is she good for like the day, or is it like an hour? How long until she does the behavior again?
SPEAKER_01I would say until like the next time that she hears something. So you're constantly having to do it like every time. Yeah, and like you know, sometimes it's not very often. Like today, I've done it once because I'm really trying to like super focus on it now. But um, yeah, if there's a lot going on, it's like a lot more than that. Um, or if someone is in the house, like like I said, like doing work, we're like had a lot of construction going on inside the house. Um, that was tough.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. And what does she do after you correct her?
SPEAKER_01She'll like grumble a little bit and like get annoyed, but she'll usually then just like settle and relax. Like if she's if I'm I'm working from home, she'll like chill out and like lay down and like ignore it. Like she's annoyed at me for doing that, but that's fine. Like, she'll she'll let it go.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Do you think she's annoyed at you, or do you think it's just kind of like leftover feelings from being reactive?
SPEAKER_01Being reactive. Yeah.
Disruptor Versus Punishment Explained
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Okay. So I would say keep doing that. Um, so there's a difference between a like disruptor or an interrupter versus like a punishment. So a disruptor is going to stop the behavior in the moment, but the dog is gonna keep going back and doing that same behavior, which is why I asked how frequently is it happening? Um, and then a punishment is the dog's like, oh, I don't, I don't want to do that again, you know. So I think that there is a ton of value in not allowing our dog to whip themselves up into a frenzy like that, you know. And I do think that that is addressing like the overall cause because whatever we allow her to do and like don't stop in the moment or don't say, like, hey, no, I don't need to do this. They think that that's like what they are supposed to do. And so I think it's like very fair to be like, girl, it is not your job to get so worked up, you know. And you kind of saw it there where you're like, Oh, she grumbles and then she goes and settles, you know. So um, I would say keep doing what you're doing, and probably just the consistency of that to like she's gonna know, okay, this isn't my job, right? It's not my job to like micromanage the house or stare out the window or you know, get worked up. She's telling me that I just need to chill, you know. Um but if it continues and you constantly have to do this for like a week, then I'm gonna do a like more intense correction to actually be like, girl, I do not want you to do this. So that correction might look like uh a little bit personal, maybe lower level on the e-collar, but hold it for a couple seconds and kind of like move into her and be like, no, you know, and then you're back away. All right, I'm gonna go back to my life, and then if she does it again, no, you know, because she's probably very sensitive to you. So if you pair like a low-level e-collar stem, so let's say your working level is like a three, I would say a six, six, seven, eight, like somewhere around there, and then for a couple seconds, no, move into her, she's gonna be like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. And then just like you have to flip it back very quickly to like, okay, no big deal, let's go back to doing what we were doing. And then what I'm looking for is if somebody walks by, does the dog think before they go to react? Are they like, oh, the last time I had this like big explosion, mom didn't really like that, so like I'm not going to do it. If she is super quick to go back to the same behavior, then I would say, okay, come back and we'll reevaluate our gameplay. Okay. Yeah, I want to like have different options, but I do think that like you have such a good foundation of training on her that if you're just like no and like correct the behavior, she's gonna be like, Oh, my bad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and usually she'll go to like either like we're buying her placeboard, she'll go lay on her placeboard, or if like she has like a place kind of in every single room, she'll go to that, so like she she gets it, she just is like continuing to do it. So I think I'm not um addressing it like as well as I could. So I'm gonna do that, focus on it like super hard for a week, like that being our main goal, I think, and then report back if it's gets better or no change.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and you have to kind of like cater to how she is, like if she's super sensitive, then you're obviously not gonna be like no, no, no, and be really scary, like just be like, no. But sometimes when we add a little like emotion to it, they're like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. She's sensitive, so I think that might work well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I would rather do that than like hit her super high on the e-collar. Yeah, you know, like I'd rather be like coming from me of like, girl, I don't want you to do this. This is not your job. It's not your job to bark at everybody that comes in or walks past us.
Using E-Collar For Dangerous Habits
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, agreed. Okay, great. I'm gonna try that. Yeah, yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, anybody else got any questions? I have a question. Yes. Um, so I have a client who has a dog who she got an acolyte for it, but she only uses the vibration for it. And now they're asking me to like start the collar trading with them because their dog is just ripping up their backyard. For that situation, would I just skip the conditioning and go straight to just like an active god situation? Because like she's eating like rocks and like digging up plants, and they had to remove a poisonous plant in the backyard because they kept like the dog kept trying to eat it. And um, I was wondering if I should still condition the e-collar, like the actual stem, or if I should just go straight to like a punishment. Yeah, um, I definitely think you can go straight to punishment for that, especially if they don't plan on uh using the e-collar for much else. If they're like, well, we want the e-collar for this, but also uh, you know, she's pulling on walks, wanna have off-leash reliability and like more, then I would be like, Well, why don't you just manage the behavior for now and e-collar condition?
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_04So have you put like foundational training on the dog? Are you starting off like no? She's coming to me with the actual just like they just use the so they use the mini educator, but it's like they're just coming to me with the dog with the vibration train, and that's it. Yeah, do they have um like obedience or marker one? Not that I know of. She's a big bully lab. Okay, are they just like, will you fix this behavior? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, then I would just use the e-caller as like a correction. Yeah. If if they wanted more and it wasn't just like, hey, can't how do we fix this? Then I would say yes, condition, but then you have to, you know, teach your leash and your marker words and like all of this stuff. So I would just use it as a corrector.
Picking The Right Class Format
SPEAKER_01Okay, all right. Thank you. You're welcome. I want to come take a class. You're like an hour from me, so it's very doable. But I'm wondering, I like keep looking at the class lineup, but I'm not sure what would be what I don't know what class I should come to. Like her obedience is not perfect by any means, but yeah, like I don't know, like I know you have like a basic obedience, you have I don't know, she's not, she's she's a tiny doodle mix, so she's probably not gonna be doing white work, but she might that is so funny.
SPEAKER_04I would say I like Saturdays. Saturdays are my favorite days because we do the pack hikes in the morning, and then we have a lot of people that will do the pack hikes, and then they come for you could come for like the puppy class afterwards. It's early. You wake up super early though. But honestly, you could really do any of the classes because we go off of who shows up. So, like some of our dogs are really reactive, but they want to work on obedience, so then we'll do like one dog at a time.
SPEAKER_01Cool, okay. I mean, we can always work on obedience. I feel like that's you know, a constant. Um but pack hike would be really cool because I feel like her healing was like super good for a long time, and then it just like slowly went down the drain. So I'm like trying to retard that from square one, which is special, but uh yeah, we can do that in either obedience or foundations classes. Okay, great. No, I really want to bring her. I've been like I keep checking the schedule and stuff. I think it would be really fun. And now you have pet power food and stuff. Are you in front of it right now?
SPEAKER_04Look, we're getting we're getting all of the things set up.
SPEAKER_01That's so cool.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I'm extraordinary.
SPEAKER_01She helped like revolutionize my understanding of like food and like get Frankie on like great food, and she's the best.
SPEAKER_04Oh, really? How did you find out about her?
SPEAKER_01Through your podcast with her.
SPEAKER_04Okay, nice.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I listened to your episode and she's close to me. Like, we're like I'm like 20 minutes north of her store, and so I just went by and it was like super, super fun.
SPEAKER_04Um, oh my gosh, no way. Yeah, I love Megan, she's the best.
SPEAKER_01She's really cool. Yeah, I know. I was like, hi Megan, I met you through Megan.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, she's like, We've got so many people on the podcast. I'm like, my people care very much about their dogs and like feeding them right.
Dog Food Upgrades And Nutrition Takeaways
SPEAKER_01Yeah, also no one knows. I told her, I was like, no one knows like any of the things that you're telling me. Like, and you know, vets are they're you know, aren't like always the best, best, like they're great. Like, my best friend is a vet, but like she's not a dog nutritionist, like so. Either way, I was like, I learned so so much, and so I have changed all my friends and family's like food too. But I'm like, you need to make like even like a five-dollar booklet that people can buy so that you can like I don't know, benefit from it too, because she's done so much work, anyways.
SPEAKER_04Forever about that, but literally, I'm I'm gonna like send her this and she's gonna be like, Oh my gosh, you're right, I need to do it. Because we've been talking about that. We're like, you need to have some videos, like you need to you need to have something on all of this because this is her entire life, and I can only like dip my toes in dog nutrition, and I've been hurting all of the things because I have to like sell it to people, but I'm like, oh my gosh, this was so much. Like, this is gonna take years before I'm to like where she is, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I'm like, I would buy like someone like me, I would go to your website and pay like five dollars to get like like you have even on your website like some like guides and stuff. I was like, people want that, or at least I want that. I think I know a lot of people who would who would really love to have that. Because like you don't know where to start with brands and everyone's spending a million dollars on marketing, you don't know if it's legit or not. So either way, you should tell her. Help she looked at it.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna tell her. So what are you feeding?
SPEAKER_01We do half California dog kitchen, half carnivore. I just put half and half. And I'm vegetarian, so I'm out here like scooping like to me, like the worst thing ever into a bowl. So if I can do it, anyone can do it.
SPEAKER_04That's amazing. Yeah, if I had small dogs, I would feed the California uh dog kitchen, but yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, Frankie eats half of a cube for a meal, so that's affordable. I would go through like three bags a day. Yeah, a big dog I feel like would eat like two cubes a meal or something crazy. So that would be yeah, we'd have to reevaluate at that point.
SPEAKER_04Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Yeah, you should definitely come out.
SPEAKER_01Cool, yeah.
SPEAKER_04Any other questions? If you guys don't have questions, we can also do I can take dogs out and we can do a training session. Did you get your puppy? Not yet. On Monday. Oh my goodness. I know. I'm very excited.
SPEAKER_03I'm so excited for you.
SPEAKER_04I'm excited to not have a sport dog, which sounds horrible, but I want a little pet dog, you know.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you need both. You need both. Yeah, I think my like dream rotation is to have three one in agility, one in protection, and one chill. Love these.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
Teaching Clean Positions With Lures
SPEAKER_04I agree. All right. I love how the true reality of balanced dog training is just having every kind of dog, like a pet dog, a working dog, like a farm dog to every category. That's balanced. It really is. I have not trained my dogs today, so we'll take some dogs out. Did I see you do uh position changes with muffin? Because I'm struggling on a getting a freaking sit stand. I can do that. We can work on positions. Yeah. Where are you at in it? I'm still doing a lure with Eggie, and she's kind of getting it, but sometimes she gets confused with like what my hands mean, and I've tried to clarify it for her, but eventually she just gets bored and then just doesn't want to do it anymore. Okay. I'll show you what I guess like I guess right now my biggest thing is um getting like clean positions because she'll just kind of give me like any sloppy like sit or lie down just to get it over with. So that's why I kind of just stopped doing it because I didn't want to fry her brain on it. But I'm just trying to get like cleaner, a little bit more like quicker responses to to a position, and then like not have the whole situation where like if I get her to lie down, she has to go into a sit before she wants to sand kind of situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Have you been using food? Yes. Food, toys, pretty much any reward that she she's like game for. Okay. Do you have a closed fist lure? Yes. Perfect. Amazing. All right. Um, let me go to the bathroom and grab coffin and then I'll show you what to do with it. So what I've started with was closed fist lure. So if you guys don't know, closed fist lure is follow the hand, but don't touch it. So like open hand lure, I want the dog pushing it here. Close hand, I want the dog here. And then how I teach it, I have a piece of food in my hand. I bring it down. Yep. When the dog pops off, yep, okay, close this. And then with positions, if you're trying to get your positions fast, it would be like if I mark with good, I'm going to move slowly in and then pay. The reason I don't want the dog reaching like out of my sit. Okay, so try mood in hand, and then you're basically gonna like push into the dog's chest.
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Short Sessions Motivation And Marker Timing
Running Lessons Without Overworking Dogs
SPEAKER_04I did this with muffin for like a day, and then I was like, okay, what's the next thing? So, like for Muppin, she thinks that I'm doing back with her. So I'm just gonna keep like pushing into her until she pops her legs up. As soon as she pops her legs up, yes, and then so yeah, use your foot if you need to to kind of get some speed on that. Let's see what it looks like with a toy. Oh, this is fun. Oh shit. Yes, I've conditioned it look much better with a toy than I got with food. But that shows me that I have a hole in my training, right? Lumin only knows, which is sand, and I'm holding a toy, because that's the only way I've practiced it. Um, I'm gonna end that session there. I know that I'll work on it next time, right? So I'll do close fist, uh pop my or mop her next up with my foot. Did the beginning of the session answer your question about positions? Yes, I actually did have one question. When you hold her collar, uh when you're doing, I think it was like a sitstand. What uh are you bracing her or are you just like making sure she doesn't like lay down? I didn't want her to move backwards. So it was when we were doing uh downs, she's a down here, and I was holding her collar to do stand. So I go stand and I pull up on her collar. Well, it's like using my foot to pop her up because if I push into her chest, she goes back. Okay, so I'm holding on to her to protect her from going back. Okay, I only really get a couple minutes to do technical stuff with the dogs. So in Muffin's case, that was like her positions. It's kind of boring, it's kind of predictable. And for a lot of dogs, the training that we're doing is not just in like, oh, teaching the dog these behaviors, but it's in building motivation. And one of the ways that we can really shut down a motivated dog is by keep doing something redundant for too long, and they're like, this sucks, this is boring. I'm not, I don't want to do this anymore. And then we keep doing that in our training sessions, and that's kind of why it's important to keep our sessions short, especially when we're teaching new behaviors or practicing old behaviors that they've done a million times. Like they're gonna get a little bit frustrated at some point, which I think like Jeannie, you kind of um mentioned. Uh, so I keep the beginning of the session, the technical thing, really short. Or I would do that maybe at the end of. No, I don't think I would do it at the end. We're gonna keep it short at the beginning. Um, but you kind of saw when Muffin was like, okay, this is annoying, like I'm not getting it. And so then I go to use my tug, she wins it a couple times. She's like, Okay, yeah, that's great. Um, and then I'm gonna end it there, and we're gonna move on to something else. So you really get like a very short window to do these super specific behaviors. Or um I went over to say on e-collar conditioning, and e-collar conditioning was like layering over obedience. So we were just doing like literally two to three sessions of obedience, and then like maybe 10 reps of layering e-collar over you know, bleach pressure or obedience, and then that's it. We call it done because if I do it for too long, then the dog's like, This sucks, I don't like this, you know. So I'm trying to keep spirits high in our training sessions. And then when I go into healing, I pretty much start my sessions always the same way, which is I get muffin barking at me. I say, Are you ready? And she's like, bah, bah, bah. So most of you are not gonna have dogs that you want to bark at you, but we still want to open up our session with, Are you ready? Are you ready? Come on, let's do something fun. For a lot of my pet dogs, I'm doing like the go, go, go, where I have pieces of food and I'm tossing it this way, and then I toss it this way, and then I toss it this way, and then I toss it this way, and then the dog starts running back to me, yes, pay, pay, pay, and then we can get into whatever I want to work on for that day. So the previous session that you do is always gonna tell you what you need to work on next, but you need to go in with a game plan of like, okay, what am I trying to teach during this session? Because if you don't even know what you're teaching, the dog sure as hell has no idea what they're doing or what they need to do to get the reward or like win the game. So open our session, are you ready? Bark, bark, bark, or get it. And then we're gonna go into our skill. For me, it's always gonna be healing. I feel like I'm gonna have to work on healing for like the end of days. Um, but I know I need to practice it. So then we go into some healing. I'm starting to add some duration into our healing in the beginning. I take three steps and she's still focused on me. Great, I'm gonna pay that. Now I can do a couple laps back and forth of us healing and she stays in the heel. And then whenever it looks nice, whenever the behavior looks how I want it to look, I'm gonna mark that. So you guys know that I'm so annoying about the markers, but it's because you have just this like half a second moment where the dog offers the behavior that you want. And if we have solid markers, you can teach things really quickly to the dogs. Um, but a lot of us don't have really clear markers, and so when the dog does do the behavior that we want, we say, Yes, we might be a half a second too late or you know too early, and then we're not you know really marking the behavior that we want. So that's why I'm so big on markers. And you know, in this session, I have uh spin, which is spin around me and get the toy on my right side. I have get it, which is get the toy that's already on the ground. I have yep, which is get the uh toy or tug on me. And then I have yes, which is food reward on me. So I have a million and two markers for you guys, good and yes can get you really, really far. But think of these active sessions as your time to practice that. You're practicing you're good, you're yes, and that's what I did today with um the trainer who I was working with. We were working on her timing, her marker words, make sure that we're really consistent because the better you are, the quicker you can teach behaviors. And then, so I do the behavior that we always do, healing, and then I sprinkle in a little bit of what we just worked on, the new thing, which was positions. So, can I sprinkle some positions in there? Can I get some good reps of that? I get some good reps, amazing. We're gonna go back to healing, and then I'm gonna end the session on a relatively high note. Whenever I'm done, I say all done, scatter, and then I scatter some food on the ground. I really like the scatter thing, um, especially with a dog like Muffin. She benefits from very clear windows. So right now I have her over here, she's so funny, chewing her bully stick. I said scatter, scattered some food. All right, now we're gonna chill. Or when I'm out training her, I do a little session, and then okay, you know, down or chill, all done, closing that window of like play with the dogs. So for you guys, that could be like Jeannie, yours is like positions. Okay, the next session I work on, I'm gonna do positions, and then you're gonna let's say you finally get the stand by pushing your you know foot into their hip. Okay, how do I fade that? You know, so then you're kind of moving on to the next thing, which is like, okay, I have the stand, but I have it with like my foot propping the dog up. So how do I do it without the foot propping it up? Maybe I try to do a couple reps of just my hand, you know, or maybe I'll use like this hand and prop the dog up so you'll kind of play around with it like that. But it's helpful to have a game plan going in. Do you have questions on any of that? You answered all of mine, thank you. Amazing.
SPEAKER_02How would you manage keeping sessions really short? How would you manage keeping sessions short in like a private like 45 minute or one hour with a client?
SPEAKER_04Typically, how it's structured is like it depends. Either my private lessons are more so focused on the owner and less on me actually training the dog. So I'm like, hey, here's what the close hand lure is, and then I teach them how to do that, and I'm like, great, now you practice that this week. So it's more so teaching the owner these skills. Um, but let's say like somebody's coming to our classes, we structure it where they'll bring their dog in, we do a five, 10-minute session, and then either they'll put their dog in place, they're they'll have their dog like be tethered, or they'll put them in a crate or like in their car, take a break, and then we have them take them back out. Okay, cool. So it depends on how your lessons are structured, but if it's just focused on the owner and like teaching them the skills, you can do that for the full hour, you know. So it's kind of like 10 minutes of explaining dog training concepts, and then it's like let's work on our yes and good, you know, tell your dog sit. And then, like my favorite thing to do, have your hands down to your side, no food in your hand, tell your dog to sit. Like 90% of people fail that one. So I'm like, great, let's work on fading your hand signal to the sit, and then we'll like work on that, and then I explain kind of like the importance of fading out so many signals, things like that in our training.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, I'm definitely like I'm still really new to taking clients, and I'm feeling the pressure of like I need to be worth the money, and like it needs to like feel like productive, but I think I just need to shift my own, like because I'm like, obviously, that makes sense, and that's how I would trade my own knowledge.
E-Collar Conditioning With Place Sends
Final Questions And Goodbye
SPEAKER_04Yeah, and break down, break down every little thing. Literally show them how to hold the leash, show them how to walk through the door, you know. Yeah, and that right there, that's 20 minutes. Okay, yeah. You're trying to everybody into little dog triggers, kind of. We got a few minutes left. I'm gonna get my little lab, Henry. We're working on a bit of e-collar. I'm gonna do a couple reps with no e-collar. I'm gonna do some like place sets with me. Yeah, he's very bitey with my hands, so I'd be supposed to bite my hands on popping a bottle. And then as soon as he pops off, I'll get it. And that's just I don't want to get my hands set up, so I'm gonna dress the screen now. Very nice. Alright, so you're just gonna get to a super solid LC without any colours, and I'm gonna layer it to the state. I'm gonna start out like he's not sensitive, but I'll start out with a seven and see what I get. So I am tapping tap tap tap tap tap tap until he gets to place. If he gets up, tap tap tap tap tap tap tap. I keep tapping until he gets back. I'm never going to stop tapping until he does the behavior that I want him to do. Because if I stop, then that's a consider that that is what I'm talking about. So let's say he gets stopped. He went up to Muffin a little bit. I had a stage on, so I could always go and grab the stage and bring it back. Very nice. Plus, we have that adamant scratch in the police. So honestly, that would be like more successful. So we worked on three things eat collar and um closed fists. Um any questions on any of that? Rachel. Thank you. Of course. Let me know you. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05Bye guys.